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	<title>Comments on: Ultimate Bet and Russ Hamilton</title>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty obvious that cheating/collusion/money laundering goes on. It&#039;s unfortunate that it gives the hairheads in washington plenty of fodder for their moralisr cannons. UB is crooked and it&#039;s been that way since day one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty obvious that cheating/collusion/money laundering goes on. It&#8217;s unfortunate that it gives the hairheads in washington plenty of fodder for their moralisr cannons. UB is crooked and it&#8217;s been that way since day one.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scott Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scott Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 05:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats so funny is that online real money poker has always and will always be completely illigit. no one seems to have the brain to realize that there are sites for crews that collude and hole card software for every site. i&#039;m a computer programmer and there are boards where the programmers openly tell of software doctoring the main one being to even out players. that means new players seem to have better luck. anyway i&#039;m sure even after this russ hamilton thing is fact that people will still believe that online poker is not crooked. i&#039;ve seen the certain gang in memphis with their crew sitting around colluding and laundering money on poker stars, full tilt, AP UB and many others. the sites are offshore and if you live in us and get ripped off what you were doing is illegal so how could you prosecute. and don&#039;t bother telling me i misspelled stuff lmao. these players even ones that don&#039;t cheat were going around for years on UB telling others that they were sore losers and that there is no possible way that hole card software or newbie wins software exsist. we now know that they do and still idiots are flocking to the sites to deposit money. of course 90% + are probably cheating lol and worst of all it screws with your poker game. you are so used to other players cheating when you go play real poker you suck. and as for russ hamilton i heard he had a price tag on his big fat ass put out by a certain gang and he&#039;s not the only one from what i heard. watch and see at least one of these people will be wacked in the near future. now i&#039;ll bet money on that. i mean think about these guys are cheating themselves lol and laundering money and then you cheat them and it is public knowledge. your number is up. and russ brought phil hellmuth into UB so wether he knew about the software or not the certain gang say he did. and they also said they consider those that are backing russ to be expendable as well. i don&#039;t care who you are or how much power or money you have when you rip off gangsters that have networks throughout the world and it becomes public knowledge your goose is cooked and these guys go after family and use spoons heated on the stove to torture children etc. all i can say to them is good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats so funny is that online real money poker has always and will always be completely illigit. no one seems to have the brain to realize that there are sites for crews that collude and hole card software for every site. i&#8217;m a computer programmer and there are boards where the programmers openly tell of software doctoring the main one being to even out players. that means new players seem to have better luck. anyway i&#8217;m sure even after this russ hamilton thing is fact that people will still believe that online poker is not crooked. i&#8217;ve seen the certain gang in memphis with their crew sitting around colluding and laundering money on poker stars, full tilt, AP UB and many others. the sites are offshore and if you live in us and get ripped off what you were doing is illegal so how could you prosecute. and don&#8217;t bother telling me i misspelled stuff lmao. these players even ones that don&#8217;t cheat were going around for years on UB telling others that they were sore losers and that there is no possible way that hole card software or newbie wins software exsist. we now know that they do and still idiots are flocking to the sites to deposit money. of course 90% + are probably cheating lol and worst of all it screws with your poker game. you are so used to other players cheating when you go play real poker you suck. and as for russ hamilton i heard he had a price tag on his big fat ass put out by a certain gang and he&#8217;s not the only one from what i heard. watch and see at least one of these people will be wacked in the near future. now i&#8217;ll bet money on that. i mean think about these guys are cheating themselves lol and laundering money and then you cheat them and it is public knowledge. your number is up. and russ brought phil hellmuth into UB so wether he knew about the software or not the certain gang say he did. and they also said they consider those that are backing russ to be expendable as well. i don&#8217;t care who you are or how much power or money you have when you rip off gangsters that have networks throughout the world and it becomes public knowledge your goose is cooked and these guys go after family and use spoons heated on the stove to torture children etc. all i can say to them is good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: james griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>james griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit AP several years ago because I felt I was losing hands that I was heavily favored. On the same token UB also gave me many bad beats on a daily basis. The problem is there are not any safe gaurds to ptotect players and there investments. I lost a sizeable amount when Jetset closed and could not get my cash back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit AP several years ago because I felt I was losing hands that I was heavily favored. On the same token UB also gave me many bad beats on a daily basis. The problem is there are not any safe gaurds to ptotect players and there investments. I lost a sizeable amount when Jetset closed and could not get my cash back.</p>
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		<title>By: vegas dealer</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegas dealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone wants to talk to Russ about this in person, he isnt hard to find, I see him almost everyday playing in the Red Rock poker room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone wants to talk to Russ about this in person, he isnt hard to find, I see him almost everyday playing in the Red Rock poker room.</p>
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		<title>By: dmwilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>years ago, we posted on our home site a video that showed my hand versus the hand history. the two were different. when i won, the hand history would change the actual hand that i had, and make me look like a loser. it gave less then a second for the table to review, then would disappear. when called upon to show replay, the replay showed my hand DIFFERENT from the one the video showed that i actually held. i tried telling the world that UB was corrupt, and, no one listened. we eventually closed our site, but we sold that vid to an attorney for 20 grand. he in turn represented others (bet UB never mentioned that payoff did they). i hope you aholes who said we were just sore losers, lost your arses and every dime you had. we warned you years ago and you didn&#039;t listen. keep playing there suckers. there and AP. keep your stupid arses losing TOO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>years ago, we posted on our home site a video that showed my hand versus the hand history. the two were different. when i won, the hand history would change the actual hand that i had, and make me look like a loser. it gave less then a second for the table to review, then would disappear. when called upon to show replay, the replay showed my hand DIFFERENT from the one the video showed that i actually held. i tried telling the world that UB was corrupt, and, no one listened. we eventually closed our site, but we sold that vid to an attorney for 20 grand. he in turn represented others (bet UB never mentioned that payoff did they). i hope you aholes who said we were just sore losers, lost your arses and every dime you had. we warned you years ago and you didn&#8217;t listen. keep playing there suckers. there and AP. keep your stupid arses losing TOO!</p>
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